Der Hexentanz

This punk fanzine (“the witches’ dance”) was edited by Petra Beck from Frankfurt (am Main). She presented herself in the Swiss zine Der Sensenmann #1:

>>First of all, I’m definitely not a real punk, because if you’re a student and you shower every day, you can only be a pseudo. Fine. I like being a pseudo. That way I at least avoid the danger of being lumped together with all the hardcore and super-tough sleazy kids. Also, as a pseudo, I can listen to all the music I like and don’t have to listen to punk all the time like the real punks. I can do all kinds of embarrassing things which punks who think highly of themselves obviously can’t do. But – eh – wait a minute, didn’t punk mean doing what you want and nót letting anyone tell you what to do? Well, I probably misunderstood something. But I can’t be a full punk anyway, because my star sign is gemini. That means I have a rational and an emotional twin inside me. The rational one is a student and the emotional one is a punk. From time to time the two fight and it’s not easy for me to get them to agree. When the rational twin has the upper hand, I behave very sensibly; when the other is ‘ruling’, I do all sorts of crazy things, such as a fanzine called Hexentanz. So as you can see, it’s not all that easy. Do you want to know more about me? I’m 22 years old, 1m70 tall, have dark brown hair when it’s not dyed and wear size 38 shoes. I also love drinking campari-orange or bitter red wine. That’s it.<<

The first four issues (from 1983) – each 16-20 pages, are available on the www:

#1: concert-reports (‘Die Toten Hosen’ & ‘Volxfront’), local news, record-reviews, a punk-quiz, etc. #2: an account of the ‘Bad Brains’ show in Köln, Frankfurter news, a piece on the backgrounds of the skinhead-movement, reviews (records/zines), a colum on commercialisation and marketing of punk, a punk fairytale, etc. #3: more provocative stuff on skins, vinyl-reviews, gig-report (‘Sportgroup’), a vision on punk in the future, an ironic story about a punk holidaytrip, book-/zine-reports and other odd bits. #4: a (non-)analysis of punk, a bit on the pointlessness (?) of doing zines, a presentation of ‘Die Ketzer‘s Erol Diken (drums) & Stefan Rohmig (guitar), news-section (written by Helge Schreiber), concert-reports, etc. etc.

I believe there were three more issues and the zine ended in 1986…

[Translation below]

ON THE SENSELESSNESS OF STILL WRITING FANZINES IN 1983

I want to say something about a letter that Rasta (person that makes the skin-zine KB ‘84) recently sent me. He states that there are hundreds of fanzines like mine in Germany and finds it boring to still be publishing them in 1983. He then recommends, among other things, that I should write reports not just about punk, but about funk, rap, rockabilly or reggae. Hmmm. To be honest, I don’t think my fanzine is all that one-sided: besides, I’m as interested in rap, funk and reggae as I am in sticky shit. I would like to write something about rockabilly; for example, I would have loved to go to see ‘Stray Cats’ and write a report about it; unfortunately the concert costs 25 DM [12,50 Euro] to get in, so I had to abandon that plan. Besides, I don’t know enough about rockabilly to write about these things. Otherwise, due to the numerous positive responses, I don’t feel the need to change anything major about my zine, and I certainly don’t have the ambition to stand out from the mass of German fanzines. I really only do my fanzine because I enjoy it, and not because I want to win any laurels for being particularly original or achieve record sales-figures. The nice thing about making a fanzine is that nobody tells you what to do. LONG LIVE SUBJECTIVITY!

In addition, among the “hundreds of German fanzines” there are some really brilliant ones that are original, worth reading and not at all “boring”; even without bits on funk, rap or reggae. Just think of Funzine, Falschmelder or the Chaostage mag.

I just like a good mix of information, fun and nonsense. And I try to do my zine that way too. If you don’t like it, then just leave it. I, for one, don’t find it boring to do a fanzine such as Hexentanz in 1983. I’m probably a hopeless case.

Treblinka (Epitaph #5)

A zine orginating from Sarajevo (Bosnia; at the time Yugoslavia), edited by ‘Peša’ Goran Perišić & Alen Dragulj. Goran provided issues 1-6 (1987-89). There were 12 issues in total. He also set up gigs and ran a distro. Nowadays he runs a radio-show (hardcore, punk, garage, post-punk) named Brzo Sagorijevanje (“fast ignition” or “rapid combustion”). He’s also working on a book about the Sarajevo underground 1980-1992.

#1 (late ’87): ‘Nazgûl’, ‘Random Killing’, ‘Haine Brigade’, ‘Dead Silence’, ‘Sacred Denial’; an ‘in memoriam’ for ‘Stiff Little Fingers’, scenereport (Zagreb) & reviews. #2 (spring ’88): talks with ‘Grave Concern’ (Ottawa) & ‘Foreign Legion’ (Wales), info on ‘Dirge’ (USA), scenereports (Canada, New Jersey, Minnesota), reviews & letters. #3 (Jun ’88): ‘Homo Detritus’ (Nor), ‘Pax’ (Spa), ‘Kud Idijoti’ (Yug), ‘D.R.I.’, reviews (gigs/records), Spanish scenereport and more. #4 (Oct ’88): brief bits on ‘Quod Massacre’ and various other Yugo bands, ‘Oi Polloi’, an interview with ‘Capitol Punishment’, scenereports from Zagreb, Indiana, Peru, Australia, etc. #5 (Dec ’88): scene-news from Oregon, info on Yugo bands (e.g. ‘Yugoslav Sun’), interviews with ‘Treblinka’ (Fin), ‘Aborted Babies’ (Illinois) & ‘Sewer Trout’ (California). #6 (spring ’89): local bands (‘Brainstorm’, ‘Vrisak Generacije’), GG Allin, ‘The Vibrators’ & ‘Buzzcocks’.

Brob

After 1984-85-86, there was turmoil in my life: my band ‘Viva La’ [Goran was the singer] split up; I was in the army and I quit college (bored with it) so I got back in the punk/hardcore saddle. Figured it was time to do a fanzine with my punk neighbour Saša. He had millions of mail-connections all over the world with other zinesters and bands. Epitaph took off. The first issue got out January 1988, the last (#12) in 1990. We soon got our good friend Vlado from Pula helping out with the lay-out. We presented some great bands from around the world to our (Yugoslavian) punk-scene and a lot of Yugo bands to the world. MaximumRock’n’Roll reviewed our zines. We made new friends, some still lasting. Our zine-connected friends helped us a lot during the awful war-time in Sarajevo (1992-95): morally, financially, even with records/tapes for our radio-show… Through DIY fanzine-making, you can do it the way you want, when you want, with no boss, censorship or advertising. Just for punk-friends, without borders and fascist scum.

Alen lives in Austria nowadays, we’re not in contact at all…

Goran Perišić

From the muzika-komunika.blogspot: >>I came back from army and tried to study at university but I fucked up. So, I started to work as a courier for a bank. After reading a lot of foreign fanzines like MRR, Flipside, Trust, La Linea Diritta, T.V.O.R., my friend Alen and I decided to make one ourselves. We picked the name from a Lucky Luke comic, not the Californian record-label. The first issue has a poor lay-out. After that Alen kinda stayed as a part-time contributor but I got help from Saša Milutinović (‘Lala’) who had a lot contacts in the international HC/punk-community. Also from the oldest active punk in town, Dragomir Križić (‘Krizha’), for graphics/collages. From #5 on there was Vlado Dugandžić from Pula (singer of the band ‘Pasmaters’), who started to study art/design in Sarajevo. Many people contributed (national and international scenereports, band-interviews, columns, etc. […] The zine was photocopied (printrun 50-100), usually 20 pages or more and the last one 48 pages.<<

‘Treblinka’ was the first band of my mate ‘Jantsa’ Jani Kärkkäinen (later ‘Juggling Jugulars) – who was interviewed here. The line-up of this hardcore punk band from Vaasa, Finland – was ‘Jantsa’ (bass/vocals; R.I.P.), ‘Vuokko’ Marko Vuorimaa (guitar), ‘Kape’ Toni Mikael Karppi (vocals) & ‘Vesku’ Vesa Jokinen (drums). They split up in March 1988, with some members forming ‘Klamydia’.

[Translation below]

TELL US A BIT ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE BAND?

The band ‘Treblinka’ was founded in 1985. We had a lot of problems, we didn’t have a practice-room, no more normal equipment, etc. But we managed to find a space in a new squat called Rock Wertas. Besides us, there were 4 other bands. The space was maintained and managed by the bands among themselves (Nowadays about 20 bands practice there!). In 1987 we started over with a new line-up: ‘Kape’ (vocals), ‘Vuokko’ (guitar), Jani (bass) and ‘Vesku’ (drums). We made new songs, wrote new lyrics, did a lot of gigs, recorded… We’re still going.

WHY DID YOU NAME THE BAND TREBLINKA?

At the time the band didn’t have a name at all. We just couldn’t think of a one until a friend suggested ‘Treblinka’. We said OK, that’s it. It’s a pretty typical name for a punk band (?) and we later realized its full meaning. We don’t want to scare people but we want them to remember how cruel and crazy mankind can be. I hope you now all know that Treblinka was a concentration-camp during World War II, where people had to endure many hardships. Our goal is not for people to grieve forever about things that happened a long time ago but to deal with the world we live in today. During the 2nd WW people knew about these camps only after the war ended. Similar things take place these days. People have no idea what’s happening around them until it’s too late. Never again Treblinka!

WHAT DO YOU THINK OF YOUR SCENE TODAY?

In our city of Vaasa, there are currently only two punk bands, while a few years ago we had six. That doesn’t mean that they’ve all given up; almost all of them are still doing something. We have three zines here: Verenpisara, Onnettomuuden Jalkeen and Illuisio We have a super squat where all the bands play and where the crowd gathers. We’re all members of the Living Music Association which is located in the squat. That group (of which the ‘management’ includes the complete line-up of the band) is handling the organisation of concerts in the city, sometimes does radio-shows on our local radio-station, owns a cheap recording-studio, etc. So far we’ve had the foreign bands ‘Anti-Cimex’ & ‘Disarm’ from Sweden and ‘Instigators’. But as far as the scene in Finland concerns, sometimes there are concerts 2-5 times a month, but other times there are none for a couple of months. It’s quite difficult to organise something: there aren’t a lot of squatts to organise gigs. (The best place is in Helsinki.) Usually we have to rent a concert-venue, sound-system and everything else. And when there’s a concert, people come from all over the country traveling hundreds of kilometres and there’s like only 100-200 people attending.

DO YOU LIKE OLDER FINNISH BANDS: KAAOS, RIISTETYT, TERVEET KÄDET, RATTUS? TELL US SOMETHING ABOUT NEW FINNISH BANDS?

Almost all the old bands broke up but that’s why there are new ones: ‘Sasquatch’, ‘Sa-Int’, ‘Sekaannus’, ‘Sabotaasi’, CMX [‘Cloaca Maxima’], ‘W.D.M.’ (quite old, maybe even the best band), ‘Pyhäkoulu’, … Of all the mentioned bands only ‘Terveet Kädet’ still exists. New bands have much better lyrics than the old ones, and the music is often better than before. However, new bands don’t have the same opportunities as before because they’re not known, they don’t have the opportunity to record for vinyl. We’ve almost forgotten those former bands because many of those people have become primitive and stupid or are no longer in the scene.

WHAT ARE YOUR LYRICS ABOUT?

Most of our lyrics are about personal views and feelings, but they’re so different that I can’t exactly say what they’re talking about. Most of the personal lyrics are about depression and how to overcome that. We also have a couple of cheerful ones who aim for an optimistic outlook on life. Some are about the growing disharmony between man and nature, and many are simply about human stupidity. We also deal with problems in our scene; the lack of unity or when people are no longer interested in the scene. The lyrics are also about ‘life’: how mankind created laws and painful wounds, and how we become slaves to ourselves. Furthermore: topics such as radiation, nuclear weapons, human rights, problems in Latin-America, … But even though the listing seems sad, many have said that we have optimistic and ‘happy’ lyrics. It’s true. We want to say that there’s a time to grieve but we need to do something and aim for peace, love and happiness, and we can find all that in our lives. It’s not easy but there is hope!

DO YOU HAVE ANY VINYL OUT?

We’re on several compilations-tapes and there’s also a compilation-EP [Waasa] with bands from where we live. [out on Kahlenukke recs] Besides us, there’s ‘A.K.K.’ [‘Aivokuolleet Kakarat’] & ‘Vihan Lapset’. We also have our own EP (8 tracks, 18 min.) Ihmisyyden Taideteos? (Humanity’s Work Of Art?) [on Petri Vallin’s label Hätäapu recs] You can order it from us. Trading for a record, tape, etc. is also possible. Just write. There’s cheaper prices for distributors. We also have a demo with 8 tracks that I can tape for anyone who’s interested.

YOUR OPINION ON CROSSOVER?

Some of it is OK but I can’t say I like metal bands. Maybe you’ll notice some crossover influences in our music but you will also find a lot of rock’n’roll influences. Anyway, I’m not enthusiastic about the idea of the punk-scene flowing into the metal-scene and vice versa. I don’t like metalheads messing around in our scene. If they behave and want to learn something, that’s OK; if they’re jerks, if they have the intention of destroying the scene, then that’s really not right.

SOMETHING TO END WITH!

Write to me! I’m doing a fanzine called Verenpisara. You can send your ads; I’ll publish them for free. We also like receiving stories, interviews, opinions, songs, photos, … Buy our single. I’m currently selling a Finnish photozine (cash or trade). Thanks for the interview and good luck to Epitaph for the future.

Epidemia (Melodías Destruktoras #5)

Joni D. (D for Destruye, Destroy) – Jesús Maria Sahún Castet; the younger brother of Fernando ‘Ferran’ (‘Anti-Dogmatikss‘ guitarist; R.I.P.) – from Barna (Barcelona) did the fanzine Melodías Destruktoras (with help of ‘Ferran’ and other friends).

At the age of fourteen he had formed (late ’82) his first punk band: ‘Epidemia’ (with his brother on guitar). The next year (1984) he did the vocals for ‘Residuos Nukleares’. Joni was also connected with ‘Anti-Dogmatikss’ but he wasn’t really in the band – “I was more of a lyricist.” – and only helped them out at times when they didn’t have a singer. He ran Anarchi recs together with his brother.

Joni was 13-14 when he did 3 issues of the fanzine Barna Rock. After that came Melodías Destruktoras (“a 100% punk fanzine”), which later became the “anarchist punk fanzine” N.D.F. (Niños Drogados Por Frank Sinatra = “children on drugs by Frank Sinatra”).

He stated: “I consider myself an anarchist. I believe in the independence of individuals and the collective of people, therefore I believe in freedom.”.

In #2 (end of 1982?) there were interviews with ‘Attak’ (with Marc García Sastre of ‘Shit S.A.’ & ‘Subterranean Kids’), ‘Código Neurótico’, ‘Siniestro Total’, ‘La U.V.I.’ & ‘Kangrena’, concert-reviews, etc.

Joni provided issues #3, 4 & 5 (1983-84?) of Melodías Destruktoras… #3 covered bands such as ‘7 Pies Bajo Tierra’, ‘Slips Y Sperma’, ‘Sindrome Toxico’, ‘Mariposas Violadoras’ and more. #4  is with ‘Shit S.A.’ & ‘Los Monaguillosh’ (interviews), ‘Kangrena’ & ‘Paralisis Permanente’ (presentations). #5 features ‘Epidemia’ (pre ‘Anti-Dogmatikss) and has reports from Gipuzkoa & Bizkaia (Euskadi), and Italy. Each had 12-14 pages and also contained some reviews (concerts, and some records/zines) and bits of news.

Later he authored a few books… Que Pagui Pujol! – Una Crònica Punk De La Barcelona Dels 80 (a punk chronicle of Barcelona in the 80s), Grupos Autónomos – Una Crònica Armada De La Transacció Democràtica (explaining the clandestine work of young people who fought against Francoism and post-Francoism), La Torre de La Serra – fiction based on real events that continues to vindicate the recovery of the historical memory of the struggle of previous generations, La Casa de la Selva (chronicle of libertarian Catalonia), & La Noia Del Pantà (“the girl from the swamp”; fiction). He also founded a couple of recordlabels (Hace Color and Kasba Music).

After the turn of the century he also did the blog Notícies Del Front (“new from the front”) where he wrote about popular culture and counterculture.

For those who master the Spanish language, here’s an interview with Joni (2018) about the libertarian movements of Barcelona in the 80s…

‘Epidemia’ (from Barna/Barcelona) was Joni Destruye’s first band (later he sang in ‘Residuos Nukleares’ (“nuclear waste”). His brother Fernando (‘Ferran’, R.I.P.; later in ‘Anti-Dogmatikss’) was the guitarist. ‘Sisa’ Narcís Gelador (Plasma fanzine) did bass and a guy named Peter played the drums.

 [Translation below]

An interview with ‘Epidemia’, a band with two people from this publication; the interview was done by a collaborator who doesn’t play in the band. Today they will do their fourth gig in Zeleste [venue], so we thought it was interesting to do this interview with them.

When did ‘Epidemia’ get together?

J: In December of ‘82.

Whose idea was it?

J: All of us.

Who are the members?

J: Sisa on bass, Fermando on guitar, Peter on drums and Joni Destruye on vocals.

Are you anarchists?

J: Yes.

F: Peter is badass. And Sisa a terrorist.

S: I’m an anarchist and terrorist.

What do you think of fascists?

J: Peter adores them.

P: I don’t.

E- What bands influence you?

J: For me: ‘Kangrena’ [Barcelona], ‘Shit S.A.’ [Barcelona], ‘Discharge’ and ‘Crass’.

F: ‘Kangrena’, ‘Dead Kennedys’ and ‘Exploited’, ‘Basura’ [Barcelona] and ‘T.N.T.’ [Granada].

S: ‘Discharge’, ‘Crass’.

P: ‘Cockney Rejects’, ‘Sex Pistols’, ‘Exploited’.

What are the worst bands?

J: There are many. ‘Los Putrefactos’ [?].

F: ‘Epidemia’.

P: ‘Sindrome Toxico’ [Barcelona].

What Spanish bands do you like?

J: ‘Shit S.A., ‘Kangrena’, ‘Cirrosis’ [Mondragón/Arrasate in Euskadi], ‘Eskorbuto’ [Bilbao/Bilbo in Euskadi] and ‘Nacional 634’ [‘N-634’; Bilbao/Bilbo in Euskadi].

F: Peter likes Miguel Rios [mainstream singer]. Myself: ‘Kangrena’, ‘Shit S.A.’, ‘Cirrosis’, ‘T.N.T.’ and ‘Las Vulpess’ [female punk band from Bilbao/Bilbo in Euskadi]. ‘Naska’ [?].

S: ‘Último Resorte’ [Barcelona], ‘Kangrena’ and ‘Canibales Podridos’ [Barcelona].

How do you like the people at Rock Espezial?

J: Rock Espezial [mainstream music mag], you believe you are VIPs.

F: They do well with the ‘Desechables’ [punk band from Barcelona; did their first tape for Anarchi recs (the label that Ferran & Joni had going)].

S: Myself, I like someone who writes well like Joni Destruye.

Do you think there’s a future for independent bands?

J: For ‘Epidemia’ yes. For ‘Cirrosis’, ‘Kangrena’, ‘Shit S.A.’, ‘Basura’ and ‘Epidemia’ there’s a future.

F: There’s only a future for me.

P: For Anarchi recs, no.

What do your songs talk about?

F: They resemble those of ‘Rigor Mortis’ [heavy metal band from Barcelona].

J: No, they’re about the army, against racism, against nuclear weapons, against the fascists. Against war.

Who composes?

J: The music: Fernando, and the lyrics: Joni Destruye.

What do you do first: the lyrics or the music?

J: We do the lyrics and the music seperately.

F: We try to find the lyrics that fit the music.

What do ‘Melodías Destruktoras’ and ‘Epidemia’ have to do with each other?

F: Nothing.

J: Those from Melodías are assholes, and ‘Epidemia’ even more so.

Well, we hope you got enough information to get to know this new band from Barcelona a bit better.

R.A.F. Punk (Archaeopteryx #5)

Archaeopteryx was the work of Gianluca Lerici a.k.a. Professor Bad Trip together with ‘Benzo’ Renzo Daveti (both from La Spezia; between Genua & Pisa). Gianluca sang in the band ‘Holocaust’ (1980-82; later in ‘Azione Aliena’), Renzo was the vocalist of ‘Fallout‘.

From the www: >>Gianluca became internationally known for his designs and art for T-shirts, playing in punk bands and making contributions to alternative manifestos and magazines all over Italy and abroad. His innovative psychedelic work has been featured in several exhibitions and publications. His drawings have appeared in Primo Carnera, Stampa Alternativa, Shake, Comicland and Bizarre. […] One of his best known comics is his adaptation of William S. Burroughs’ Naked Lunch (Il Pasto Nudo, Shake Edizioni, 1992). […] Gianluca Lerici died from a cardiac arrest in November 2006 at the age of 43.

Renzo Daveti lived through and strongly contributed to the La Spezia underground of the 1980s, […] the years of Kronstadt [CSA, Centro Sociale Autogestito; “self-managed social centre”], La Spezia’s first social centre, which arose in 1987 with the occupation of the Vignale school […] He was an agitator of La Spezia’s music and art scene since ’78, a painter, graphic designer, mail-artist, creator of fanzines, organiser of exhibitions and festivals, poet, performer, DJ, etc.<<

The first issue got out in 1980-1. The 5th (1983-84) is downloadable from the internet. A native speaker, Barbara , summarised the content:

In the introduction it is explained why it took so long to come out with a new issue. It seems that many of the original editors lost interest in the zine and its anarcho-punk contents, so that issue 4 was supposed to be the last one. But some other editors decided to create a new issue, having received a great number of letters and other material. It was a time when punk self-productions were growing considerably. The zine takes a stand against all forms of power and in favour of the dissemination of anarchy and freedom…

HOKA HEY is an article about indigenous people of North America, their history and current situation in the “reservations” set up by the U.S. government. THE DAY THE COUNTRY DIED (‘Subhumans’): lyrics translated in Italian. TRA LUCE E ARIA… CANCRO (“between light and air… cancer”) is about pollution brought about in the city of La Spezia by Enel (national energy-company), also responsible for all sorts of dirty profit-making activities. BULLSHIT DETECTOR TWO, the Crass recs compilation double-LP (1982) – Italian translation of the presentation to be found in the album and of some of the tracks. CARNE SIGNIFICA ASSASSINO (“meat means murder”): an article describing the activity of a butcher cutting up a rabbit, after a customer asked for half a rabbit; the impression you get from reading is quite shocking and rightly so! An interview with ‘M.D.C.’ (in Italian), where they talk about Millions Of Dead Cops, the struggle in El Salvador and, interestingly, their opposition to ‘Crass’ “pacifist organisation”: ‘M.D.C.’ states they are against all forms of political organisation. They also mention their next album, Millions Of Death Children. (translation of ‘M.D.C.’ songs. Reviews of punk ZINES, mainly from the U.K. NASTRI (“tapes”) is about English alternative labels that deal with tapes only. ‘KRONDSTADT UPRISING’: Italian translation of their songs. ANATEMI! (“anathema”): a collection of texts sent to the editors by individuals and bands [‘Fallout’, ‘Impact’, …]. AGGREGAZIONE, SPUNTO DI AZIONE! (“aggregation, starting point for action”): review [by ‘Punkrazio’ Andrea Menichini] of punk-bands from the Friuli-Venezia Giulia region, that experiment with visuals/sounds and combine music with issues such as vivisection, famine, the invasion of information-technology. REFRATTARI (resisters/deserters) is a fierce criticism of La Spezia, one of the sites of the Italian navy and a heavily polluted city. ‘R.A.F. PUNK’ [Bologna]: an introduction by the band, followed by their lyrics. Lyrics of ‘KOLLETIVO’ [???]. MANGIA MERDA! (“eat shit!”): an article against politicians of that time. UNA DIRETTA DAL VIRUS DI MILANO (“live from Virus in Milan”): a report of an action carried out by the punks of Virus [social centre and venue, active 1982-87] against a conference entitled Le Bande Spettacolari Giovanili (“youth’s spectacular bands”), promoted by an institution dealing with “youth’s deviant behaviour” [read: La Notte Dell’Anarchia]. The punks disrupted the press-conference called by the conference’s promoters and occupied a theatre, organising a day and night of projections/debate/concerts. The conference didn’t take place. SCHIZOCONTATTI: a list of contacts for anyone who wants to promote libertarian and self-managed initiatives. There’s also some pages with poetry.

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‘R.A.F. Punk’ (R.A.F. = Rebel Anarchist Fraction) was an anarchist band from Bologna. The line-up was ‘Jumpy’ Gianpaolo Giorgetti (deadname) – nowadays known as ‘Jumpy’ Helena Velena (vocals), ‘Whyyot’/ ‘Whiyot’ Barbara Lolli (bass), ‘MalaTesta’ Laura Carroli (drums) & ‘Bounty Scarponacci’ Carlo Chiapparini (guitar; also ‘Anna Falkss’). Their music can be situated at the transition/intersection from 77-punk and ‘Crass’-style anarchopunk.

In ’78 ‘Jumpy’ and Laura Carroli decided to create a virtual group: ‘Rhutter Grøpp’. At the time of the transformation into ‘R.A.F. Punk’ the band was Stefano ‘Steno’ Cimato (bass), Carlo (guitar), Massimo ‘Mammo’ Poggi (guitar), Laura (drums) & ‘Jumpy’ (vocals) were in the band. When ‘Steno’ formed ‘Nabat’ he was replaced by Cristina Cavazzoni, later Beppe and after him Barbara Lolli. When the latter gave up Gabriele ‘Pedro’ Pedrini joined.

The band became very combatative/active in the 80s. Their activity went beyond music and extended to initiatives with a social impact, from leafleting to polemical protests. The nerve-centre of their actions became the Cassero, the home of the Bolognese anarchists (nowadays an LGBTQIA+ Centre). In 1982, they founded their recordlabel Attack Punk recs with the release of the compilation-EP: Schiavi Della Città Più Libera Del Mondo (“slaves of the most free city in the world”). They also did a fanzine entitled Attack Punkzine and the Cassero became the contact for the Italian scene for ‘Punkaminazione’ (a zine/newsletter for connection, communication, information, etc. put together by groups, collectives, labels in the first half of the 80s).

In 1986 the name was changed to ‘Transxxx’ but after a few concerts an internal crisis caused a split. In the meantime Carlo started with ‘CCCP Fedeli Alla Linea’, ‘Jumpy’ became Helena Velena and founded Cybercore [Company offering various video-messaging services and databases intended for different ‘sexual minorities’. “She brought transgender theory to Italy, redefining its limits in terms of the philosophy of dis-identity, studying the subject both from its positive as well as negative aspect – i.e. between living in a cyberspace and in ‘real life’. She wrote a number of books, including Dal Cybersex al Transgender, contributed to publications, writing on counter-culture, extreme music, alternative sexuality and technologies applied to the human body.”]. And Laura, among many things, did shot short movies & theatre, and opened the cultural association Vortice [project for the digitalization of subcultures].

(source: Enciclopedia del Rock Bolognese by Andrea Tinti)

From the announcement of Laura Carroli’s book – Schiavi nella città più libera del mondo; La storia dei R.A.F. Punk: “The magazines and records ‘R.A.F. Punk’ published created a community of very young resisters, aware of the disruptive force of rebel utopias. The band was armed with an iron will built on a real mission: that of shattering the ideological foundations of entertainment society and proposing new principles of equality between gender and class. […] They were four friends with fluorescent mohawks, aggressive slogans and dressed in super-sexy rags, subjected to the oppression of right-thinking people, police-repression and beatings by fascists. Concerts at the crossroads of provocative performances and insurrectional rallies capable of inflaming the brains of the kids […] Many trips to Europe aboard a beat-up car, in search of those few similar creatures with whom to share the dynamite of their ideas. A testimony full of hilarious episodes and extreme situations to be read at the same speed as a punk song, an absolutely new female point of view in the publishing panorama.”

Besides two songs on Schiavi Della Città Più Libera Del Mondo (’82), they had a track on the international P.E.A.C.E. benefit compilation (‘84). The song I Morti Di Reggio Emilia (’81) is also available online… The band was also included on compilation-tapes such as Punk United (Roberto Farano’s Disforia Tapes, ’81) & Sanitized For Your Protection (Entertainment Tapes, California, ’85).

[Translation below; with help of Raffaele Gallucci & Barbare ‘PD’]

Social death in the era of Benito Craxi [Barbara: a prominent politician, at the time also prime minister]

(When disaster looms, the slices of ham abound) [Barbara: Probably this is a metaphor: when disaster looms, people don’t want to see it. Avere gli occhi foderati di prosciutto (to have your eyes wrapped in ham) means to be blinded, to have your head in the sand.]

The January issues of various printed media; optimistic mirrors of sector-interests, began 1984 with the all too predictable editorial “Fortunately Orwell’s prophecies didn’t come true.”, removing (perhaps even consciously) – on the level of trivial logic – the fact that Orwell did not foresee that in 1984 a given situation would have arisen, but rather that in 1984 it would have in ‘full swing. As a consequence, it can be stated that the ‘prophecy’ is correct, and there was certainly no need for the New Year’s Eve party to prove it. Anyone who has been in the shit called ‘bitter reality’ lives there without the slices of ham [see previous note] knows this well. But the rest, or rather, all the others? Spiritual regression gallops alongside the atrophy of the will, and too few appear to notice it.

In the meantime they served us (twice in two months) a programme on the ‘English Youth of the 80s’, trying to show us how the protest has no longer its place in the hearts of kids, to be replaced by a harmless walk up and down King’s Road [Brob: shopping street in London where the fashion‘punks’ hang out] (even if Dave [Brob: ???] seems like a funny guy – which he is – that’s certainly not the only expression of ‘our essence’) and spending an evening at the Batcave [Brob: goth nightclub in London] being bored until four in the morning. The fact is that “they” are damn right but they CHEAT.

Even in the Jefferson [Brob: Jefferson Airplane (psychedelic rock band) ?] era, when Jimi Hendrix coalesced dissatisfaction and white/black anger, the ‘Bee Gees’ immitated those who turned their marginalization into a flag and presented themselves as a symbol of the ‘petite bourgeoisie’ who let their hair grow to keep up with the times. Even when the Edgar Broughton Band [Brob: psychedelic proto-punk rock band] was traveling around the English countryside in a dilapidated van, playing in the squares of every town, there were plenty of 18-year-olds who were loyal to the queen and disapproving that “rabble of long-haired drug-addicts” who make noise in the streets.

The crux of the discussion is that piattomarronismo (imbecility and ‘youthful’ political apathy) wasn’t created by the ‘crisis of values’, nor was the latter necessarily a result of piattomarronismo, but it has simply always existed, in different proportions, depending on the periods, but always clearly in the majority. This is because the piattomarrone isn’t the one who lives in conflict but the one who suffers, and clumsily and stumbling – given the process we’re going through now – is precisely that of an omnidirectional expansion of the conflict; the resistance-capability of the average individual as the bombing increased, determines a frightening growth of piattomarroni and piattomarronismo. And all this determines the hilarious intolerance and idiotic indifference that covers the face of those who hide in their roles of being a pain-in-the-ass compared to those who actually experience the conflict. The piattomarrone pisses himself out of fear but their unconsciousness throws him the lifesaver of “I’m laughing out loud.” and they’re never willing to admit that the situation is tragic, precisely because they hide the pain of the whip on their back; and exactly because they suffer the conflict and aren’t willing to admit that they’re amoebic, they sublimate it by sinking into the apology of the ‘opposing party’. In other eras of political hypertension (and we’re not gonna avrabble about the years ’68-‘77) this expressed itself in the rediscovery of the ‘joy of life’ and the beauty of nature, 3131 [Barbara: Chiamate Roma 3131 was a radio-show of RAI Radio 2 (1969-1995), the first attempt ever made in Italy at direct and unfiltered contact between the listener and the medium.] invited us to open the window and admire the greatness of the sun, and hid the proof that the drama of the old lady from the lower Po [Brob: river in Italy] valley was the result of a system of social relationships that were treated with the wonderful medicine of Dr. Tambroni. [Barbara: This probably refers to a character, doctor Tambroni, in a 1981 comedy, Pierino Medico della SAUB, in which the main character was interpreted by the famous Italian comedian Alvaro Vitali. No idea of what the drama of the old lady from the lower Po Valley is about…].

And from here to that naturist substrate of green meadows and skirts with flowers that managed admirably to hide the smell of teargas from the enthusiasts of the three little monkeys [Barbara: The three little monkeys representing an ancient Japanese proverb (‘see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil’) that encourages avoiding involvement in negative or controversial situations.], and to create a worthy ‘fucking scapegoat’ for the former autonomists [Barbara: Autonomia Operaia (1973-79) was a movement comprising elements of the Italian extra-parliamentary and revolutionary left, opposed to the reformist left.] and/or angry feminists plunged back into the abyss of piattomarronismo. Now the atmosphere is a harder and such a scenario isn’t a sufficient antidote to clear one’s conscience, but instead we defined it as “excuse of the opposing party”. When the laceration occurs on the economic level, the spectrum of poverty haunts the city-suburbs, the future will be lay-offs and weekly allowances will not increase in accordance with the price of ice-cream in the stalls on the corner. The ‘last resort’ will be pretending that things are exactly the opposite; begging for the last pennies of happiness in the joy of consuming, begging for the last shreds of carefreeness in CONSUMERIST INTEGRATION.

Hence a swarm of screens of wealth; intended to explain that the causes of poverty can be contended (perhaps the term is too extreme) while even ignoring the result.

If the suffering occurs on a social level where the deviant isn’t the one who sells roasted chestnuts on cold winter days but the straight-haired outcast who, even just by their presence, acts as a counterbalance to the daily regimentation [Brob: extreme organisation and control of people]; their vile intolerance is expressed by ‘feeling’ or pretending to feel we’re all the same; diving into oceanic gatherings, smoothing out political, social and behavioral differences with blows of an axe, all defining themselves as pacifists, all fearful of the anti-god of the nuclear holocaust, all brothers willing to live while breathing pure carbondioxide, losing their hair due to radiation, doing all that’s necessary to nullify themselves in equality, shitting themselves in the mouth instead of swallowing sperm. In such a social reality, if the general tendency leads to the annulment of the individuality of the single person (paying homage to the psycho dictatorship, once again the excuse of the opposite party wants everything to be clear, comprehensible and easily labeled based on the simple logic: homogeneity facilitates control). What better method to avoid finding ourselves displaced and abandoned to ourselves in the face of evidence of the collapse of a society congested by its own vomit and the inert corpses of those who allowed themselves to live screwing everything and everyone, and blaming the rottenness, only when fucked back in turn, if not go with the flow and perhaps speed up the process?

Buying a Luger [Brob: a pistol] is too heroic and individualistic a gesture to be taken into consideration, therefore the piattomarrone have their lemming-mania [Brob: blindly following the crowd] in everyday life, feeding on banalities and small things, gossip, fashions, conformism and routines. Thus the intergalactic holocausts and the metaphysical disquisitions fall apart upon the observation that out of ten girls on their way to the Piazza di Porta Ravegnana [Brob: townsquare in the centre of Bologna] (under the two towers) at rush hour on any Monday, eight are wearing black stockings and the other two are of an age not suitable to conform with fashion. Certainly none of them want to look sexy and in any case they aren’t, but it’s not out of flirtatiousness nor because they have a higher stupidity-level than those who don’t follow fashion, but because this is the way of shouting to the collective unconscious “Rob my dignity but let me vegetate like this a little longer.”, without words, without strength.

In fact, the rainbow of the piattomarrone doesn’t contain any ‘heavy metal mayhem’ but perfectly reproduces the entire range of gray shades sewn onto small things, small facts, the detail, trivialities, also extending beyond belief without distinction of sexe, age, social class, geographical origin. So what? From the NEW WORLD to the reality in which we struggle with a few incoherent strokes, everything appears without solutions, too often to justify our reluctance to search. But there is a solution – and it’s fucking simple. No need to resort to suicide or to wash your feet with wine at the tavern, and continue to complain about playing the ‘trump card’. THE SOLUTION IS THERE AND IT IS THE INDIAN [Brob: ???] TO SHOW US THE WAY…

R.A.F. PUNK * band of pseudo-intellectuals, antisocial and deviant

PERSONAL COMPUTER OLIVETTI M20 – 1984: ORWELL WAS WRONG

Do you remember the story of ‘Big Brother’, who – in the year of desperation, 1984 – was supposed to spy on us all, control us, hold us in its powerful electronic coils; who knew everything and did nothing wrong? Well: it remains a fairytale: that old gentleman who hated technology and who went by the name of Orwell made a mistake in his prediction, he was unfortunately shortsighted. Certainly, one could also hypothesize that technological development, frightened by the outcomes of the whole picture, made him to take action by reversing the time-course. However, the course of history has taken the opposite direction, the new industrial revolution is that of distributed information, of small tools with great possibilities: of ‘Big Brothers’ who shrink until they become ‘personal friends’, personal computers. Here’s what Orwell’s pessimistic vision didn’t foresee: the computer for everyday use designed to solve the thousand problems that worry us; to simplify the work, to put information into place […]. In short, it’s expected that the future to which Orwell condemned us is increasingly American.

LYRICS

YOUR BIBLE

With the eye of god / religion has indoctrinated / preserved its lies / keeping fear away.

Is sacrifice essential / unnatural sin / does christianity insure against all evil / death in an afterlife?

The crucifixion as a symbol / an example for submission / how many saviours I’m seeing / dead because of religion.

The church calls its faithfuls / and the host goess from mouth to mouth / all to be saved from hell-fire.

Is religion your life / praying before going to bed / do you think it will help? or because you’re just scared?

The priets confess the christians / subjugate the masses / the cross will always be upon them / and god the tyrant will command them.

Love cannot exist in religion.

Masturbation is prohibited

you protest to go blind

this is what the catechism teaches

But if you are a HERETIC

you can say shove their cross up their ass

But if you are a HERETIC

YOU CAN SAY THIS IS THEIR BIBLE NOT YOURS

And if you are an ANARCHIST / you can say that you believe in man / and not in their untruth.

RELIGION IS JUST AN INVENTION

RELIGION IS JUST AN INSTIGATION

RELIGION, HYPOCRITICAL, DIRTY, FRUSTRATION

Is every page, every word / of your bible sacred? / This is what they taught you! / they’re the ones who command you / in the witch-hunt.

FALL OUT

SOCIAL ZOMBIES (OTHER THAN DECADENT)

11.000 doses every night / consumed only in Rome. / And how many hundreds of thousands / in every part of the planet / locking themselves up in a car / forgetting that they exist / poor people without imagination / incapable of enjoying life / THERE ARE THOSE WHO DIE AND / THERE ARE THOSE WHO LOSE THE WILL TO FIGHT / THERE ARE THOSE WHO END UP RIPPING HANDBAGS / TO BUY THEIR SOCIAL DEATH.

New York saxophonists, new-wavers / or imitators of Sid Vicious / behave in a fashionable way / teaching the charm of self-destruction / but the poor people don’t know / that a true decadent / doesn’t base their pleasures / on a single experience.

I DON’T WANT TO BE A MORALIST / I JUST FEEL INDIFFERENCE.

RECYCLED ARISTOCRACY

Social classes transparent by now / who’s the real enemy, now, / of the proletariat? / with the [???] in the left pocket / sitting in front of the café de Paris / with olives and pretzels / the pride of a social class passes. / Bourgeois aristocracy born from the French Revolution. / Great heroes of social parasitism are now turning yellow [Brob: losing leaves, aging ?] without a shot being fired / and yes Baron Lucifero [Brob: politician ?] still continues to lick the Vatican’s ass / there are even those who’ve already ended up as accountants in the office / perhaps they understood that to stay floating it’s better to go shopping at the Botteghe Oscure [Brob: medieval “dark shops” in Rome] / and perhaps marry the daughter of a bourgeois Marxist couple

NEW MIDDLE CLASS; SHITTY RECIPE.

Razzia (Apocalypse Now #4-5-6)

In (the area of) Basel (northwestern Switzerland), Urs Völlmin a.k.a. Mr Spock (Sissach) did the radio-programme Media Blitz (punk rock) on Radio Raurach, joined by ‘Würzi’ Beat Wirz (Häfelfingen) and a couple of others. A somewhat clumsy political statement against the construction of a nuclear power plant ended that. Both were also the editors of Apocalypse Now fanzine (since 1982). Urs continued on his own for several years (10 issues until 1986). He also ran a small distribution and later started a tape-label. The zine was about “HardCore, trash, punk, oi!, reggae, ska, garage, techno, pop, beat”…

Urs presented the zine in Der Sensenmann #1: the start was in February ’82 (with ‘Würzi’ – the bassist of punk band ‘Negativ’ – and others). He also wrote for other zines. His role-models were old Swiss zines such as No Fun, Schwindel, Röfa, Punk Rules, … Urs states he also particularly liked MaximumRocknRoll, Flipside, Forced Exposure, Ripper & We Got Power! (US zines). And furthermore “What I don’t like: all ‘Exploited’/stupid punx, intolerance, hippies, nazis, commies (who are loyal to Moscow), smoking weed. What I like: fanzines, ‘Chelsea’, ‘Minor Threat’, ‘The Lurkers’, ‘Gary Glitter’, ‘Joy Division’, ‘Wire’, ‘Angry Samoans’, ‘Youth Brigade’, ‘Sham 69’, ‘The Jam’, ‘Buzzcocks’, wienerschitzel with fries, cinema, ‘The Meterors’, ‘The Adicts’, ‘Flipper’, DC punx, and much more.”

Roman Suter from Ittingen (who did Holocaust Suburb recs) helped out. In One World #3 (zine from down under) there was a call for tracks for a compilation-tape (Revenge Of The Fun Squad) by Roman, a fan of the zine…

#4-5-6 is part of Dirk Michiels’ (Punk Etc.) collection; PDFs of issues 7, 8, 9 & 10 are/were available online. Get in touch for a copy if you’re interested…

The cover cover of #1 mentions there’s scenereports from Germany & the U.S., a lot of bands (e.g. ‘Dead Kennedys’), records, gigs, and more.

#2 (’82) is reported to feature ‘Sin 34’ (female fronted HC band from Los Angeles), ‘Circle Jerks’, ‘The Gun Club’, ‘Chelsea’, ‘Black Flag’, ‘Misfits’, ‘Liliput’ (Swiss all-girl band), ‘Fear’, ‘Minor Threat’, ‘ZK’ (punk band from Düsseldorf), ‘Damned’, ‘Stiff Little Fingers’, ‘G.B.H.’, ‘Blitz’, ‘Abrasive Wheels’, ‘The Destructors’, ‘T.S.O.L.’, ‘The Cramps’ and more.

#3 (’83) has a ‘Neurotic Arseholes’ interview; there’s a presentation of ‘The Damned’, ‘Uproar’, ‘No Trend’ (HC band from Ashton, Maryland), ‘Fang’ and many other bands, a report on Finnish punk, book-reviews, and a lot more.

#4-5-6 (’84) triple issue has 104 pages filled with presentations of bands such as ‘Äni(x)väx’, ‘Bluttat’ & ‘Rudolf’s Rache’ (Ger), and ‘Kurt I Kuvös’ & ‘The Bristles’ (Swe); an interview with ‘Razzia’; and much more.

#7 (’85) another 80 pages with reviews, cartoons, ads, photos, columns, lyrics, band-presentations, scene-reports (Mexico, Australia + New Zealand, UK, Brasil).

#8 (’85): 36 pages with info (Uproar recs), interviews (‘Government Issue’, ‘Riot Squad’), scene-reports (Belgium, Poland), reviews, ads, pics, etc.

#9 (’85): comics, reviews, stories (e.g. ‘Angry Samoans’, scene-report by Mykel Board), pics and ads.

#10 (’86) contains presentations of Swiss bands ‘Pax Helvetia’ & ‘The Squirt’, ‘Lydia Lunch’, ‘L’Attentat’; a column on nuclear war (by ‘Final Conflict’), punk in Poland, reviews (also comics), and more.

[Translation below]

The big RAZZIA interview

by Urs

You’re being compared to ‘Slime’? a.) Does that bother you? b) What do you think of ‘Slime’?

Fortunately, the times that we got compared with ‘Slime’ are over. In the beginning, we had to hear and read quite often that we play in the vein of ‘Slime’ – what annoyed us. That was probably because we also have two guitarists and also come from Hamburg. But after our LP was released, no one claimed that anymore.

In terms of playing-technique, ‘Slime’ was the best German punk band, on stage or in the studio: they always managed to play very fast and very neat. They have often been accused of being commercial, which seems ridiculous when you compare them to UK or US bands of the same quality.

Anyone who claims ‘Slime’ is a commercial band should think about that at the next concert of a UK or US band; when they pay 16 DM for admission.

Why did you do your record for Weird System and not at AGR?

We actually always wanted to produce our LP by ourselves but we couldn’t get the money together. At that time Weird System [punk label from Hamburg] contacted us and we accepted when they offered to do an LP with them. AGR [Aggressive Rockproduktionen; punk label from West-Berlin] never made us an offer at the time.

Influences, role-models, music you listen to?

We have no role-models and have always tried to prevent influences of music we like on the music we make ourselves, which of course isn’t completely possible.

We listen to everything and everyone. The band-members’ taste in music is different and I can’t list the various bands. We mainly listen to punk and HC (if you wanna make te distinction), preferably tapes from unknown bands + German punk.

Bad experiences at gigs with nazis?

So far we haven’t been attacked by nazis while on stage. We hardly saw any nazis at our concerts.

Where do you stand politically? Any party?

None of us belong to a party or anything like that. The political viewpoints of the band-members differ, as do their musical tastes. What is certain, however, is that we can’t be classified as left-wing or even right-wing. We don’t accept any of the existing systems.

Will there ever be any ‘love songs’ by the band?

We do have a ‘love song’ it’s Halbes Schwein [“half pig”]; besides that we play the music we like and write the lyrics we like. No matter whether they are ‘political’ or love songs. We do the things that seem appropriate or fun to us.

How do you see your future?

For the band: see infosheet. Private: ?.

What’s your opinion on fanzines? Do you even read any?

Of course we read them when we get our hands on them. And our opinion? I don’t want to criticise or even praise individual zines, but in general you can say that there are more bad fanzines than good ones. I would describe a bad fanzine as a zine that is neither informative, nor originally presented, nor even well-written or funny. Nevertheless, I’ld rather read a decent fanzine than one of those [mainstream rock & pop] mags such as Spex, Scritti or Disaster.

Nonetheless, I think it’s cool when someone makes the effort to publish their own zine.

Punk in ’84: any opinions?

More new bands, more new fanzines, punk is spreading like an epidemic across the globe; but nevertheless less publicity, fortunately…

Punk becomes fashionable? Punk is fashion? Punk is dead?

Lots of records, lots of scrap. Everything from the UK is bad? Everything that’s good comes from America??? Viva America??? Punk, hardcore, difference???

Not a lot of opinions…

What do you do besides music?

Two are doing an apprenticeship, two are going to school and one is doing civil service.

Will you do more reggae songs?

It all depends on whether we feel like it. We very rarely set out to do any song in a specific style or of a specific type. So far we’ve been working without a concept. ‘The Ruts’ were a good band but we don’t want to imitate them…

Have you ever gotten in trouble because of your lyrics?

Not until now. But, as we learned from someone we know, the LP is known at the governmental Office for Child Protection since a long time. But we believe that they can do nothing that harms us because of the lyrics.

Your opinion about Switzerland?

We don’t know any bands from Switzerland and we haven’t been there yet. We haven’t been able to have form an opinion about it.

When was the last time you went to McDonald’s?

I’ve no idea, it’s been a damn long time.

Why the name ‘Razzia’?

Good question, I honestly don’t know, it was a long time ago, but it didn’t have any particular meaning…

Thanx to ‘Razzia’ for the interview.

If you don’t have the ‘Razzia’ LP yet, you should damn well get it. It’s a really good slab of punk music, out on Weird System. It’s all just killer songs. A must. I haven’t read a bad review about them yet and that means something in this day and age, when so much junk is being produced. (Urs)

 

RAZZIA WAS FOUNDED IN LANGENHORN, A SUBURB OF HAMBURG, BY PETER [Siegler] (DRUMS), THOMAS [Harm] (BASS) AND ANDREAS [Siegler] (GUITAR & VOCALS) IN THE WINTER OF ’79. UNTIL THE BEGINNING OF ‘83 THE LINE-UP CHANGED FREQUENTLY. CURRENTLY IT’S AS FOLLOWS: VOCALS: RAJAS [Thiele] / GUITAR: FRANK [Endlich] / GUITAR: ANDREAS [Siegler] / DRUMS: PETER [Siegler] / BASS: SÖREN [Callsen]

WHEN WE GET THE QUESTION WHY WE STARTED RAZZIA OR WHY WE MAKE MUSIC, ALL ONE CAN SAY IS THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE OUR OWN MUSIC. THERE WERE NO OTHER REASONS! NONE OF US COULD PLAY AN INSTRUMENT AT THE TIME, NOR OWNED ONE.

RELEASES: UNDERGROUND HITS 1 (BIS DER ARSCH [Im Sarge Liegt] + B-ALARM) COMPILATION [AGR; 1982] / WATERKANT HITS 1 (UdSSR + [Helden Von] NORDVIETNAM) COMPILATION [Weird System; 1983] / TAG OHNE SCHATTEN (15 OWN TITLES) LP [Weird System; 1983] / KEINE EXPERIMENTE (KRIEGSZUSTAND + AMI-FRAβ) COMPILATION. [Weird System; 1983]

INITIALLY WE ONLY PLAYED IN HAMBURG AND THE SURROUNDING AREA. SINCE CA. 2 YEARS WE PERFORMED IN SEVERAL LARGE AND SMALL CITIES, ALMOST ALWAYS ON WEEKENDS. IT’S OUR INTENTION TO DO AS MANY CONCERTS AS POSSIBLE; BUT THAT IS MORE DIFFICULT BECAUSE OF THE DECREASING GIG-OPPORTUNITIES FOR PUNK BANDS. WHEN A PROMOTER CAN’T GIVE US A HIGHER FEE, OF COURSE WE’LL PLAY FOR FREE BEER AND PETROL MONEY. IN THE FUTURE WE PLAN TO DO EVEN MORE CONCERTS AND TO RELEASE AN INDEPENDENT AND SELF-PRODUCED RECORD. WE WANT TO DO OUR THINGS OURSELVES AND ALONE, WITHOUT ANYONE HAVING THEIR SAY OR BEING DEPENDENT ON ANYONE!

Plaid Retina (Silly Hornets Tribune #3)

Silly Hornets was a concert-collective, a D.I.Y. association of HardCore-fans in Lyon, bringing north-american bands to their town and supporting local bands (first half of the 90s). The people involved were members of the “metal punkcore” band ‘Condense’ band (guitarist Varoujan Kestechian, singer Marc Prempain, drummer Sébastien Barcet, guitarist Wilfried ‘Wilo’ Siméan, bassist Fred Garcia => Fabrice ‘Bif’ Godet) and their mates (e.g. ‘Maïe’ Perraud – the band’s manager at the time).

Some of them were also involved in making a radio-programme (garage/punk/HC on Radio Canut) and doing a zine: Silly Hornets Tribune. Four issues were published. Number 2, 3 & 4 (each ca. 40/50 pages) are available on the www.

In #2 (’90) there’s columns (e.g. americanisation of European subcultures); talks with ‘The Tell-Tale Hearts’ (garage rock from San Diego), ‘Enterprize’ (association founded by the Paris punk band ‘Cosmic Wurst’), Tim Warren (Crypt recs), ‘All’ & ‘M.S.T.’; plus reviews & cartoons.

#3 (’91) has columns (e.g. macho behaviour, objective journalism, etc.); interviews with Econochrist, ‘D.I.’, ‘Plaid Retina’, ‘M.D.C.’, ‘Fugazi’, ‘Victims Family’, pro skateboarder Lance Mountain, ‘Shaking Dolls’ (garage band from Angers, Fra), ‘NoMeansNo’, ‘G.I. Love’ (psychedelic HC/punk band from Paris), ‘D.O.A.’, etc.; a presentation of The Crab Song (Paris distro); reviews; cartoons and news.

#4 (’92) starts of with the story of mid-60s punk; then there’s conversations with ‘The Brood’ (garagerock from Portland, Maine), ‘The Mono Men’ (garagepunk band from Bellingham, Wa), ‘Dead Moon’ (punk/garage from Portland, Or), skater Tom Knox, ‘Jawbox’ (indie rock from Washington D.C.), ‘Mudhoney’ (SubPop band from Seattle, Wa), etc. Furthermore a report about HC/punk in Latin-America, columns (e.g. ‘Maïe’ on Surfers Against Sewage) and reviews.

Brob

The right person to talk about the zine is Marc Prempain. I was more involved in organising concerts… You can add the name of Eric ‘Biloul’ Rageys, the sound-man; he recorded our demo-tapes.

‘Maïe’ Perraud

I was part of the association but didn’t take care of the fanzine.

Varoujan Kestechian

The fanzine was of indeed a collective effort. The two main ‘axes’ were the 60s garage and hardcore scenes. There was always a punk edge. The Anglo-Saxons have an expression that describes well what we wanted to do and it was nothing original: spreading the gospel…preaching the word. Everyone was a fan of punkrock and wanted to share their vision of it. Although everything had started with the English bands of 76/80 that we had only got to known with a delay of a few years, at that time our goal was really to make the scenes that I spoke about above known. The big rolemodels were MRR and to a lesser extent Flipside, and a few other lesser known beat/60s punk oriented mags. Since we were organising concerts in our city, it allowed us to do a few interviews and thus make connections or at least have a little more in-depth discussions with the bands. It also gave us the opportunity to put some things that were important to us on paper (opinions/columns). Looking back, there are some fairly simplistic articles but at the time it was liberating!

I’m not sure if I can say I learned from making a zine (or speak for others). However, the satisfaction of starting from nothing much to make something that you then hold in your hands, of which you take a certain pride and which will pass from hand to hand, is very real.

Marc Prempain

‘Plaid Retina’ was a HC/punk band from Visalia (near Fresno), California with Don Hudgens (drums), Matt Morris (guitar/vocals) and Travis Hernandez (bass/vocals). They were introduced to me through The Thing That Ate Floyd compilation double-LP (LookOut! recs; 1988)…

[Translation below]

WHEN YOU LISTEN TO THEIR FIRST EP AND THE ALBUM THEY RELEASED ON LOOKOUT IN 1989, YOU WONDER IF IT’S THE SAME BAND YOU’RE LISTENING TO. THEY’VE REACHED SUCH A LEVEL OF MATURITY IN A SHORT TIME, THAT IT’S IMPOSSIBLE TO REMAIN INSENSITIVE TO WHAT THEY’RE DOING. THEY’RE OFTEN COMPARED TO ‘NOMEANSNO’ TO A POINT THAT THIS IS DOING THEM WRONG AND IT’S EVEN MORE A PITY THAT THEY DIDN’T KNOW ‘NOMEANSO’ AT THE TIME OF THE RECORDING OF THEIR LP.

I OFTEN FIND THAT CALIFORNIA HAS THE WIDEST VARIETY OF HARDCORE BANDS. ONE THING IS SURE: ‘PLAID RETINA’ AREN’T THERE FOR NOTHING! THIS WRITTEN INTERVIEW DATES FROM 1990. IT’S AT EVER SO FRESH…

WHAT ARE YOU UP TO RIGHT NOW?

We just came back from our second US tour which lasted 5 weeks; it was really good. We’re supposed to be recording our new album soon. That is also supposed to be released on CD (We’re all doing our best for that.) but no one seems to seriously want to release a ‘Plaid Retina’ CD.

HOW LONG HAS ‘PLAID RETINA’ BEEN AROUND?

We have been together for 6 years, 4 as ‘Plaid Retina’ and 2 with Travis.

WHAT DOES ‘PLAID RETINA’ MEAN?

“If you had a plaid retina, you’d see everything fucked?” That’s a remark that Matt (guitar/vocals) heard from a drunk guy during a concert.

DID YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH LABELS? ARE YOU SATISFIED WITH LOOKOUT! RECS?

Our biggest problem with labels is that we don’t stay in touch enough with the people who run these labels (with LookOut! Too [Lawrence Livermore]). We’re good friends with Dave Hayes [originally co-founder of LookOut! recs] of Very Small recs and we’ll probably do a record with him. I don’t think we’ll ever get to the point where a label likes us enough to hang out with us, come and see us rehearse, etc. It always seems like it’s up to us to get out of town every time we try to get a label’s attention.

DID YOU TOUR TO PROMOTE PINK EYE?

Yeah, twice. We sold quite a few too!

EXCEPT FOR THE PLAID RETINA EP AND THE PINK EYE LP, HAVE YOU RELEASED ANY OTHER RECORDS?

Yes, we did two more EPs. Rejection [1990], which was released in the USA on Duck Butter recs in Fresno, and Boxcar [1988] released in Germany by Musical Tradgedies [Florian Schück].

PINK EYE AND PLAID RETINA ARE VERY DIFFERENT MUSICALLY, DID YOU SEEK THIS EVOLUTION OR DID IT COME BY ITSELF?

If you heard Boxcar you’ll understand the bridge between our old songs and the new ones. It’s just a natural evolution.

THE MUSIC OF YOUR LATEST LP IS VERY RHYTHMIC, VERY TWISTED… HAVE YOU BEEN INFLUENCED BY OTHER MUSIC GENRES SUCH AS RAP FOR EXAMPLE?

Yeah, maybe not rap, but the three of us like a lot of different things. We have a very broad horizon…

DESPITE ITS ORIGINALITY, YOUR MUSIC SEEMS TO BELONG TO A CURRENT STYLE OF MUSIC: THE LAST ‘BAD BRAINS’, THE LAST ‘NOMEANSNO’; WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT?

Yes, they’re two great bands, but I hate it when people talk to us about ‘NoMeansNo’ because they think we sucked. Nothing could be further from the truth: we recorded Pink Eye before even listening to ‘NoMeansNo’.

HOW IMPORTANT ARE THE LYRICS OF YOUR SONGS TO YOU?

The words should be emotional as opposed to intellectual. There are a lot of good lyricists, Jello Biafra for example, but our band is more concerned with feelings.

WHAT DO YOU THINK OF JELLO BIAFRA OR HENRY ROLLINS, WHO SOMETIMES DROPPED MUSIC TO CONVEY THEIR MESSAGE THROUGH POETRY OR SPOKEN WORD?

I think that’s really good! Henry Rollins has always been one of my favourite authors. It’s a good thing to know that people have other ways to express themselves besides music.

OUR FANZINE COVERS 60s PUNK AND HARDCORE. WHAT DO YOU THINK OF BANDS THAT MIX THE TWO? DO YOU LISTEN TO ANY 60s PUNK BANDS?

I think it’s very good for the people that are into it; the closest thing to 60s punk that I listen to are the ‘Ramones’ or Iggy Pop.

WHAT ARE YOUR FAVOURITE BANDS?

I answer for everyone: ‘Blondie’, ‘King Crimson’, ‘Red Hot Chili Peppers’, ‘Rollins Band’, late ‘Black Flag’, ‘Firehose’, ‘Minutemen’, ‘23 More Minutes’ [cowboy-punk from Santa Fe, New Mexico], ‘Alice Donut’, ‘Bazooka Joe’ [punk-rock from Myrtle Beach, South Carolina], ‘Victims Family’, ‘Neurosis’, Julie Cruise, ‘Hoopla!’ [punk from Illinois], ‘Jawbox’, ‘Soundgarden’, ‘Pixies’, ‘Night Soil Man’ [indie-rock from California], ‘Gore’, Morrissey, ‘Jawbreaker’, Tom Knox’s band [pro skater; played drums for ‘Cacti Widders’], ‘Punkin’ Pie’ [California], ‘Drippy Drawers’ [California], live version of Heaven And Hell by ‘Black Sabbath’, late ‘Voivod’. Of course these are just a few examples.

DO YOU KNOW ANY FRENCH HARDCORE? WHAT DO YOU THINK OF IT?

No, I’m trying to take an interest in it. I’m also trying to to gert ‘Plaid Retina’ interested in it because we want to tour and play in France.

ANYTHING TO ADD?

Yes, we would like people to write to us from France. We don’t know how to speak French but we would like to correspond.

interview: Wilo Simean

Renegados (Os Impregnantes #10)

Don’t die while you live! While you’re standing there (doing nothing much), a lot of people are taking action!

This anarcho-punk zine is the work of Armando Tomé from Curitiba (south of Brazil), with support of other punx from the Fazendinha district. “We still have pretty much the same ideals, showing that critical thinking wasn’t a passing fad. Better still: it shows that we haven’t turned into those ridiculous conservatives.” Os Impregnantes could mean something like “we, who’re full of ourselves” (see Armando’s explanation). The following issues are available online:

# 9 (1995): text about atheism, anarchist punx against racism, a presentation of ‘Crude S.S.’, columns about urban violence, squatting & military service.

#10 (’96): interviews with the Brazilian bands ‘Renegados’ (Curitiba) & ‘Mentes Ativas’ (Piracicaba), the story ‘punks del maata’ (“punks from the woods”), Viva la Pinga (“long live pints”) show, etc.

#11 (’96): interviews with Brazilian bands ‘Ação Positiva’, ‘Besthöven’ & ‘Metropolixo’; report on the Maio Negro (“black may”) gig commemorating the general strike that took place in Chicago (110 years before) in the fight for 8 hours of work per day (several anarchists were killed), news from Curitiba, and more.

#12 (’97): presentation of the band ‘Offense’ (Curitiba), report on an a fascist attack and eviction of Czech Squat, info Blitz squat infogroup (Oslo), texts written by the Impregnantes & Libertários cooperative (racist violence in Curitiba, police violence in Salvador).

#13 (’97; in Spanish): scenereport about Curitiba, an article on atheism and presentation of the band ‘L.A.I.’.

#15 (’97): interview with anarchist poet Reinaldo O. Hening, info on the centro social alternativo autogestonado (squat) Casa Encantada (Lisbon, Por), Polenta Frita punk festival VI in Caxias do Sul, talk with the band ‘F.H.C.’ (Fome, Histeria e Corrupçao; Minas Gerais, Bra), meeting with indigenous people in Joinville (Bra), chat with the ananrchopunk band ‘Resistência’ (Uruguay), Austrian scenereport, and more.

#16 (’98): edito on the punk-movement in Fazendinha with info on the Castro Alves cultural centre, reviews (concerts/tapes/zines), homebrew recipe; interviews with (cartoonist) Marião (SCAB Lomhlaba zine), ‘Difekto’ (Curitiba), ‘Sistema Criminal’ (Bilbao, Bizkaia, Euskadi) & ‘Cojoba’ (Porto Rico); Italian scenereport, Payol squat (Curitiba), etc. etc.

Armando played guitar in the anarchist HC/punk band ‘L.A.I.‘ (‘Livre Associação de Ideias’; “free association of ideas”) in the second half of the 90s. He tells me the band is still active (still the same line-up). They promote the ideas of their collective Cooperativa Impregnantes e Libertário. Members participated in other band-projects such as ‘Offense’, ‘The CO2’, ‘Tratores de Luxo’, etc. They also released Cooperativa Impregnantes e Libertário tapes. Armando also has a distro going (Attack Social Records).

Brob

I started doing the zine in 1993. The aim was to disseminate anarchist ideas and the punk ideology, writing about punk activities (shows, demonstrations, protests & meetings). There were interviews with bands from our scene and with people we were in contact with via (snail)mail around the world… The zine is in Portuguese and has always mainly been distributed in the Brazilian punk scene.

The literal meaning of ‘Impregnante’ is a sticky substance that penetrates a body or environment. In our local slang it also has a figurative meaning: an ‘impregnant’ person is someone who is overly insistent, generally uncomfortable, annoying and clingy… Referring to someone with that word is definitely not giving them a compliment.

The zine was started collectively by punks from the Fazendinha neighbourhood, the suburbs of Curitiba. Our initial idea was to disturb, to impregnate the society with our ideas. Using the resources that were available: magazine-clippings, handmade drawings and texts written on a typewriter. After the third or fourth edition I started doing it alone and there were 16 editions between 1993 and 1998. It appeared irregularly; sometimes there were three editions in a year, other times just one… The format and number of pages varied; I kept the last editions to some 20 pages.

At the time, zines were a very efficient way to promote the counterculture, to spread information that is relevant for the punk movement. With the growth of the virtual world and access to the internet, physical fanzines diminished from the 2000s onwards. Now it has gained relevance again. I think the new generation is realizing that the smartphone does everything but is not everything. It’s giving value to physical material, something that for them, digital natives, is new. Currently [spring 2024] I’m doing new editions of the zine in physical format, distributed mainly at local shows but also release them as PDF for wider dissemination. I talk about old and new scenes…

The collective produced many other zines such as: Utopia – a zine created collectively (only one issue), Já Sem Dentes (“already without teeth”) – 1998/2004, a comic zine that I made together with another Brazilian punk who had gone to live in London, Sociedade Auto Destrutiva (“self-destructive society”) – distributed widely in the early 2000s.

Nowadays I dedicate myself to digitally archive my city’s punk history from the 90s on blog impregnantes.com.br [flyers, photos, recordings, video, etc.], for entertainment and research purposes. Most of my zines are available to download. I believe all these are historical documentation, countercultural records that shouldn’t get lost. It’s voluntary work, no intention to make profit, as punk should be. No ads…

In 2020, I participated in the Feria Del Libro Punk [“punk bookfair”], where I gave a talk (in Spanish) about my zine-work in the 90s.

Stay rebel, stay anarchist, stay punk!

Armando

[Translation below; thx to Armando]

‘Renegados’ (“renegades”)

Since when does the band exist and who are the members?

We have been around since February 1995 but rehearsals only began in April. The members are: Moska (“fly”) (vocals), Elvis (guitar) and Fábio (drums).

How do you define the band’s sound?

Punk noise.

Are all the band’s members punks? What projects do you have going?

Yes. Elvis does the zines Berro HC (“HC scream”) and Ação Subversiva (“subversive action”), Moska plays in three other bands: ‘Quebra de Padrões’ (“pattern breaker”), ‘Sobreviventes da Desgraça’ (“survivors of disgrace”) and ‘Nojo Social’ (“social disgust”). He also works on the zines Berro HC and Discórdia (“discord”). Fábio also plays in the bands ‘Nojo Social’ and ‘Sobreviventes da Desgraça’.

Tell us in a few words about how the access to shows, rehearsals, etc. is?

We rehearsed at the house of a mate of ours and at Kaaza squat (play on words: casa means “house”). A space for shows is not avialable.

What is the band’s objective?

To spread and encourage punk culture, resist, annoy and be the thorn in the side of the bourgeois, the clergy, the military and all fascist parasites.

Is ‘Renegados’ influenced by other bands?

We enjoy the music of some activist punk bands but there are no direct influences.

The band is featured on the compilation-album Maldita Repressão (“danm repression”). Can you tell us about that?

It was something unexpected, it was a stimulus to continue with the band-project.

How can people contact you?

P.O. Box 1094 CEP 80.020-970 Curitiba/PR. People who think punk is a joke or a fashion shouldn’t write.

Plans for the future…?

Recording for a compilation-tape with the activist bands from Curitiba: ‘Desajustados’ (“misfits”), ‘Transgressão’ (“transgression”) and ‘Livre Associação de Ideias’ (“free association of ideas”). It will be titled Bêbados, Pobres e Contestadores (“drunks, poor and contestants”). And continue resisting and revolutionizing within the punk culture.

Any messages?

No more ‘77 punks. Fuck fake punks, death to the bourgeoisie and idols. God does not exist! Smash fascism!

A.P.P.L.E. (Sekasorto #5)

Sekasorto (meaning “mayhem, chaos, confusion, disorder”) is the work of Harri/Harry Joensuu (from Kauhajoki) & Kari/Gary Waskivuori a.k.a. Wasky (from Päntäne); both West-Finland (between Vaasa and Tampere). Gary was the vocalist of the HC/punk band ‘Valse Triste‘. Harry ran the label Trash Can recs.

The www learns that Sekasorto #2 was with ‘Peggio Punx’ (Ita)… Jari Mikkola (guitarist of ‘Aivoproteesi’) shared a copy. There were also presenations of Finnish bands such as ‘Purkaus’, ‘The Rutto’, ‘Äpärät’, ‘Aivoproteesi’ and many more; plus interviews with ‘Mau Maus’, ‘Maho Neitsyt’, Marionetti’ & ‘The Septic Psychos’…

In the issue (#5?; 1986) I found in the Punk Etc. collection there’s interviews with ‘Irstas’ (Fin), ‘The Ewings’ (Ger), ‘A.P.P.L.E.’, & ‘H.H.H.’ (Spa), and a report on squatting in Amsterdam (by Susanne of Vrankrijk).

Brob

Sekasorto was started [in 1982] by my friend. He did the first two issues by himself before I joined. We also released eight compilation-tapes under the name Trash Can Tapes.

Kari

Around 1986 the anarchist peace-punks in ‘A.P.P.LE.’ (N.Y.C.) were Janette ‘Jae’ Monroe (vocals, R.I.P.), Michael ‘Mike’ Millett (guitar, founder of Broken Rekids), Vinny Monroe (bass/vocals) & Mickey ‘Malignant’ (drums). The band was founded (circa 1984) by brother and sister Vinny & Jae.

Tim Yohannan wrote (MRR #40; Sep. 86) about their Neither Victims Nor Executioners tape: >>Proving there’s more to NYC than street-survival and ‘fuck you’ lyrics. Fueled by strong female vocals, intelligent lyrics, and still powerful playing, there’s a ‘Penetration’/’Poison Girls’ influence, but also more going on here – funk influences, folk rocks aspects (cover of Blowin’ in the Wind [Bob Dylan]) and classy production.<<

[Translation below]

Motus Vita Est (Glans Penissis #4)

Glans Penissis was the work of Zlatko ‘Vuka’ Vuković (R.I.P.) & Vedran Meniga (‘Nula‘ drummer), both from Šibenik (city on the Croatian coast of the Adriatic Sea).

Jadranko Mlinarić of Fanzini 80-ih made 2 issues available:

#4 (1991): gig-reports & reviews; ‘ interviews with ‘Motus Vita Est’ (Zagreb), ‘Oi Polloi’, ‘Ritam Nereda’ (Novi Sad, Serbia), ‘Schliessmuskel’, ‘Emils’, ‘Internal Autonomy’, ‘Mere Dead Men’; presentation of ‘Gottschee’ (Kočevje, Slo); presentations of Zagreb bands, and more…

#6 (1994): booklet with info/lyrics that came with ‘Nula’s tape Pobjedimo Laž (“let’s defeat the lie”); plus an interview with ‘W.O.R.M.’, presentations of local bands ‘Antitude’, ‘Apatridi’, ‘Enklava’, ‘Frontalni Udar’ & ‘My Life/ My Dreams’), etc.

Nowadays Vedran labels himself as a “publisher, journalist, DJ, promoter, organiser, producer, party-animal, underground music activist, sound provider and positive lifestyle supporter”… He’s the owner of Pozitivan Ritam (“positive rhythm”) agency and PDV recs (label). He was a pioneer of the MonteParadiso festival (Pula) and still organises festivals…<< (e.g. SeaSplash festival)

Motus Vita Est‘ was a HC/punk band formed in Zagreb ’88, Croatia (still Yugoslavia then; Croatian independence was internationally recognized in January ’92). The line-up at the time of the interview (after their first LP was released) was ‘Hogar’ Rade Preradović (vocals), Dalibor Knežević (guitar), Zoran Stojanović (guitar), Damir Mihulja (bass) & Nenad Koporčić (drums).

[Translation below; with help of Dejan Požegar]

MOTUS VITA EST [latin for “movement is life”]

(answers by ‘Hogar’)

I did this interview after attending a ‘Motus’ gig, and their first LP confirmed all that, i.e. the quality … /N. [???]/

Tell us a bit about the beginning of ‘Motus’.

The first rehearsal of ‘Motus’ was in the tenth month of 1986, I gathered some friends and suggested that instead of drinking and being bored, we’ld start with a band. It was a wild bunch but we lost it and split up; only to start again a year later.

Line-up changes?

There were a lot of changes.

Do you have any role-models or favourite bands?

Hogar: We don’t have a role-model and we all like divers bands. Personally I don’t have any favourites since ‘Dead Kennedys’; I even don’t have time to listen to other new bands poperly.

Many people talk about how your music used to be HC, and nowadays is crossover. How would you describe your music?

Well, listen…we’re a HC band but it would be a sin against music and ourselves if we’ld be limiting ourselves to a certain rhythm or way of playing the guitar. Depending on the atmosphere of the lyrics, we make music regardless of the style. The functionality of the music is important, not whether or not hammering is used.

You’ve released a lot of demos. Now there’s vinyl. How did you manage to realize it: through an independent label or self-financing, D.I.Y.?

We were financed by Sacro Egoismo from Vienna and everything else we did ourselves.

You appeared on the compilation-LP The Return Of Yugoslavia [Street Tuff recs & Sacro Egoismo, 1990]. I recently noticed that it’s sold by foreign independent labels; do you receive letters or calls from abroad regarding this?

The letters are coming in and have been arriving at a constant pace, because our tapes are being distributed a lot outside [of Yugoslavia]… It’s not like the Return LP it’s a turning-point for us.

Does your city support you? I was in Zagreb, most of the people love you, but still there was teargas used at your show. Was that a coincidence or are there problems when you play?

Those for whom our gig was intended love us and that’s important. We’re only in conflict with some wanna-be rock-critics. That teargas was thrown by some moron but it didn’t ruin our concert. The reason was that we kicked two people out of the band because they wanted to do commercial music. There were no excesses before and there won’t be any in the future either, because we cleared things up.

Speaking of Zagreb: are there any young bands that are progressing and could get somewhere?

There are cool bands and the more they try, the more they will achieve. The most active of the youngsters are ‘Hell’s Bells’.

Do you cooperate with Zagreb noise bands such as ‘Patareni’, ‘T.M.P.’ [Total Mošt Proyekt] & ‘Buka’?

No. Otherwise: what you listed is one band. [Dejan: same members – different projects]

What do you think about the Yugo scene as a whole? There are more and more great concerts and independent labels.

We have everything but there’s no significant progress: instead of tapes, records are made; that’s all. Those ‘independent’ publishing labels behave like Jugoton [national record-label/-company, pressing-plant and recordstore-chain], only they have less money. Their goal is mostly the same: to make profit.

You’re definitely one of the best Yugo bands. Do you happen to like and listen to any Yugo bands?

Thanks for the compliment. As for local bands: I like them just as I like foreign ones. The last few days I’ve been listening to ‘Ludilo’ [Dejan: “maddness/insanity”; trashmetal from Bosnia], ‘Distress’ [raw punk from Belgrado], ‘Overdose’ [Serbian HC/crossover/industrial band], ‘Hogari’ [Dejan: “punk/oi from Belgrado]; I also like ‘Gottschee’ [Slovenian thrash band]. There are many good and interesting ones.

About your concerts. You often play in Zagreb. Where else did you play in Yugoslavia?

The furthest away from Zagreb, we played in Koper [Slo] and Smederevska Palanka [Ser].

What’s your opinion about the concert at the Gallery, that you did to promote your album?

We played a standard [Dejan: quality-wise] set for ‘Motus’, we didn’t make any mistakes, the audience reacted well, even when there was teargas. I’m glad that ‘KBO!’ [Serbian punk band], ‘Zadruga’ [Croatian punkrock band], ‘Hell’s Bells’ [HC from Zagreb], ‘Ex-Sandra’ [Dejan: don’t know that band] responded to our invitation. ‘Zadruga’ pleasantly surprised me. By the way, I still didn’t get my amplifier fixed that got broken there. Not to forget: I really liked the attitude of the ESCE Gallery [important place of alternative culture at the time of the break-up of Yugoslavia] staff and the P.A. guy.

Have you played outside Yugoslavia, and if so: where?

The first time we played outside of Yugoslavia was in Vienna, at the Arena [venue] on 25/05/1989. Now we have promo-concerts in Austria in March. Besides Austria, we have only played in Germany. This season we have some more countries coming up.

Did you continue working after the release of the LP? Are you thinking of trying to reach a wider audience: you mentioned shooting a video for TV?

I will try my best to arrange as many gigs as possible and I believe that this should be echoed in the media as well, because HC is also part of the culture.

Anything to end with?

Oats to the horse and fuzz to the guitar.

Dead Ends & Intoxication Of Violence (Mutilated News #6)

This fanzine (to be contacted in Las Pinas, in the Manila area) was started in the late 80s by Noel/Emmanuel Francia a.k.a. Noel Punxia (plus some other people). His college-friend Regie Pablo was his full-time zine-partner for #4/5 to #8. Their aim was to feature their favourite local & foreign HC/punk bands. It was cut & paste style, photocopied and communication went through snail mail… There were ten issues before it went online in 2000…

Some bands featured: ‘Instigators’, ‘Decadence Within’, ‘7 Minutes Of Nausea’ (#5); ‘Disorder’, ‘Portobello Bones’ (Fra), ‘Spinners’ (Tur), ‘Care Bears’ (Fra), ‘Valse Triste’ (Fin) (#8). Never seen any of these. Noel donated the interviews below: #6 (1990) had interviews with Philippino bands ‘Intoxication Of Violence’ & ‘Dead Ends’, and ‘Chimica Katalypa’ (Gre), ‘Cowboy Killers’, etc.; there was also an article on world-starvation and scene-reports (Holland & Scotland).

Noel also ran a non-profit distribution (Mutilated News distribution; duplicated tapes of mostly classic foreign punk, HC, oi, ska and crust taken from imported material); that developed into the Mutilated Noise recs (label/shop).

Regie did volunteer work for several indigenous tribes and he’s also a mountaineer (a.o. Mount Everest).

Brob

The printed version ran from 1988 to 2000 and featured underground hardcore, punk, crust, thrash bands from the Philippines & the rest of the world. We did 10 issues (bands, scene-reports, political rants and reviews). Our scene was really isolated back then, in the pre-internet era…

Noel Francia

Dead Ends‘ (punk; Malabon, Manilla/Quezon area) were: Jay Dimalanta (bass; R.I.P.), Al(fredo) Dimalanta (vocals/guitar), Rouen Pascual/ Harley Alarcon/ Bong Montojo (drums) & Lourd De Veyra (guitar).

‘Intoxication Of Violence’ (HC/thrash; Manila): Xeres Anicete (vocals), Gerri ‘Bagets’ Dueñas (guitar; Blatant Underground zine; R.I.P.), Radzon Medina (bass) & Ruben Querubin jr. (drums).